Commodore 128 – The Most Versatile 8-Bit Computer Ever Made

by Ian Matthews of   July 11 2003 – Revised June 12 2012

On this page:

  • Commodore 128 History: Chips, Peripherals, 128D, People, Wrap up
  • Commodore 128 Reference Materials: Manuals, Videos & Magazine Articles
  • Commodore 128 Chronology
  • Commodore 128 Photo Gallery


Commodore 128 History:

In the summer of 1984 Commodore  decided that they needed a replacement for the amazingly successful C64.  More accurately they decided that the TED / 116 / Plus/4 / 264 Series was a failure as a replacement for the C64.            

Commodore 128 ComputerThis machine would be Commodores last 8-Bit computer; after this they would produce only 16/32 Bit Amiga’s and IBM PC clones.          

Customer reaction to Commodores failure to provide native CP/M support in the C64 and (much worse) their failure to provide C64 compatibility in the Plus/4 / 264 Series  taught Commodore engineers some hard lessons.  Commodore’s founder and visionary,  Jack Tramiel, had quit months earlier and the new management team wanted to just forget the Plus/4 / 264 Series fiasco. Fortunately, the engineers knew they needed to fulfill promises of compatibility.          

Bil Herd got the top job as 128 lead Engineer because of his vocal criticism of the new management teams lack of vision. “No one dreamed that C64 compatibility was possible so, no one thought along those lines. I had decided to make the next machine compatible with _something_ instead of yet another incompatible CBM machine. (I won’t go into the “yes Virginia there is Compatibility” memo that I wrote that had the lawyers many years later still chuckling, suffice it to say I made some fairly brash statements regarding my opinion of product strategy) Consequently, I was allowed/forced to put my money where my mouth was and I took over the C128 project.”

Under managements guidance, the first C128 concept machines  (pre-prototype) made no attempt at C64 compatibility.  Bil recalls, “I looked at the existing schematics once and then started with a new design based on C64ness. The manager of the chip group approached me and said they had a color version of the 6845 if I was  interested in using it  would definitely be done in time having been worked on already for a year and a half…… And so the story begins.”

Commodore needed its next computer to be a serious upgrade from the C64 if it was to successfully battle its arch nemesis;  It needed to keep Jack Tramiel’s, Atari, from being successful with their rumored new “ST” line. 

Commodore SuperPET MMF 9000 BrochureIn 1982, Commodore released the worlds first multi-processor personal computer, called SuperPET, but  it was targeted only at the education and scientific markets.  The Commodore 128 was to be the worlds first mass market multi-processor computer.  It would also have two video subsystems, one of which would allow it to connect to a TV.   

A reviewer from  Your Computer magazine wrote “The dowdy shoebox image of the  Commodore 64 has been replaced by a slim line beige console that any style-conscious businessman should be pleased to have on his desk. A full size typewriter style keyboard has 92 keys, that travel and locate well.”  The 128’s 80 column display mode would produce 640×200 which was better than the CGA mode that IBM PC’s could produce even in the early 1990’s!  This new an powerful machine would act as three completely separate computers in one:

Commodore 128 Mode 2Mhz Speed (8502 CPU), 128K Memory,  very nice 80×25 RGB display, advanced Basic 7.0
Commodore 64 Mode 1Mhz Speed (6510 emulation in the  8502 CPU), 99.8% compatible with 64 hardware and software, accessed  by booting the machine while holding down the Commodore key or typing GO 64
Commodore CP/M             Mode 1-4Mhz Speed (Zilog Z-80 CPU), 100%  compatible with the huge volume of CP/M business applications such as Turbo Pascal and WordStar (an excellent program I used personally for years on a Sanyo!)  Note that the Z-80 processor was originally spec’d by Commodore management to be the same external expansion cartridge used on the C64.  However, to resolve several other engineering  problems, Bil Herd designed the Z-80 into the main board. This mode required CP/M software disks to be loaded on boot up.

All this would sell for an initial price of just $300; half of the Commodore 64 price when it was introduced two years earlier. 

The Chips:

MOS             8502 CPU – Yet another derivative of the 6500 series
Improved version of Intel 8080 CPU designed by the same Intel engineer
MOS             8563 CRCT / VDC – Video Display Chip 80 column x 25 rows 640×200 (128 mode only)
MOS             8564/6 VIC – Video Interface Chip (NTSC / PAL) – used in 40 column x 25 row
MOS             8721 FLPA
MOS             8722 MMU – Memory Management Unit
MOS             6581 SID –  Sound Interface Chip
MOS             6526 CIA – Complex Interface Adaptors (2 of them!)

80 Column Commodore 128 Basic 7 Screen Shot40 Column Commodore 128 Basic 7 Screen ShotThis technically complex machine would present serious engineering and  marketing challenges to any company.  Bil Herd recalls “It was sometime in September (1984) when we got 8563 (new 40/80 column color video chip) Silicon, good enough to stick in a system. …One concern we had was it occasionally blew up…. big time…. turn over die and then  smell bad….. But then all of the C128 prototypes did that on a semi       regular basis as there wasn’t really any custom silicon yet, just big circuit boards plugged in where custom chips would later go… but you can’t wait for a system to be completed before starting software development.  When this problem still existed on Rev 4 we got concerned.  It was at this time that the single most scariest statement came out of the IC Design section in charge of the ’63.  This statement amounted to ‘you’ll always have some chance statistically that any read or write cycle will fail due to (synchronicity)’ “.


 “Synchronicity problems occur when two devices run off of two separate clocks, the VIC chip hence the rest of the system, runs off of a 14.318Mhz crystal and the 8563 runs off of a 16Mhz Oscillator. Now picture walking towards a revolving door with your arms full of packages and not looking up before launching yourself into the doorway. You may get through unscathed if your timing was accidentally just right, or you may fumble through losing some  packages (synonymous to losing Data) in the process or if things REALLY foul up some of the packages may make it through and you’re left stranded on the other side of the door (synonymous to a completely blown write cycle).  What I  didn’t realize that he meant was that since there’s always a chance for a bad cycle to slip through, he didn’t take even the most rudimentary protection against bad synchronizing. …As it turns out the 8563 instead of failing every 3 years or so (VERY livable by Commodore standards) it failed about 3 times a second.”

In addition the yield on these video chips was about .001%.  Commodores chip division MOS Technologies could only get three or four working chips the per run.   “A run is a half-Lot at MOS and costs between $40,000 and $120,000 to run.  Pretty expensive couple of chips.”

As if these problems were not enough, the power supply needed to be adjusted for each chip or they would literally burn up.  “No single custom chip was working completely as we went into December (1984) with the possible exception of the 8510 CPU…  At this point all I did have to lose was a HUGE jar of bad 8563’s. (One night a sign in my handwriting “appeared” on this jar asking “Guess how many working 8563’s there are in the jar and win a prize.”  Of course if the number you guessed was a positive real number you were wrong.)”

CES - Consumer Electronics Show in Las VegasWith only five or six weeks to go until the January Consumer Electronics Show in Vegas “…finger pointing was in High swing, (the systems guys should have said they wanted WORKING silicon) with one department pitted  against the other, which was sad because the other hardworking chip designers had preformed small miracles in getting their stuff done on time… …Managers started getting that look rabbits get in the headlights of onrushing Mack trucks,  some started drinking, some reading poetry aloud and the worst were commonly seen doing both. Our favorite behavior was where they hid in their offices.  It was rumored that the potted plant in the lobby was in line for one of the key middle management positions.” 

Unbelievably, in this time of crisis, both MOS chip designers went on Christmas vacation and “…a sprinkler head busted and rained all over computer equipment stored in the hallway.  Engineering gathered as a whole and watched on as a $100,000 worth of  equipment became waterlogged….  I can honestly say that it didn’t seriously occur to me that we wouldn’t be ready for CES…  here were just too many problems to stop and think what if.”

Commodore 128 in CP/M 3.0 Mode from 1985 ! - Download this disk and WinVice Commodore emulator from our DOWNLOADS tab“Von Ertwine was developing CP/M at home (consultant). Von had wisely chosen not to try to follow all of the current Revs of the 8563, instead he latched onto a somewhat working Rev4 and kept if for software development.  Later we would finRun a real CP/M session - from d out that Von, to make the 8563 work properly, was taking the little metal cup that came with his hot air popcorn popper (it was a buttercup to be exact) and would put an Ice cube in it and set it on the 8563.  He got about 1/2 hour of operation per cube. On our side there was talk of rigging cans of cold spray with foot switches for the CES show.”

Bil Herd stated that a number of “odd engineering fixes”, often conceived after consuming a few beer at the bar beside the MOS factory, resulted in seemingly insurmountable problems being quickly resolved.  The most important of these ‘fixes’ was the Zilog Z80 CPUintegration of a Z-80 CPU into the main board.  In addition to resolving  several taxing electronic problems, it elevated the C128 into the realm of the business computer. “A True Miracle and was accompanied by the sound of Hell Freezing over, the Rabbit getting the Trix, and several instances of Cats and Dogs sleeping together. This was the first time that making CES became a near possibility. We laughed, we cried, we got drunk.”

“We averaged 1-3 of these crises a day the last two weeks before CES.  Several of us suffered withdrawal symptoms if the pressure laxed for even a few minutes.  The contracted security guards accidentally started locking the door to one of the development labs during this time.  A hole accidentally appeared in the wall allowing you to reach through and unlock it.  They continued to lock it anyways even though the gaping hole stood silent witness to the ineffectiveness of trying to lock us out of our own lab during a critical design phase.  We admired this singleness of purpose and considered changing professions.”

“We finished getting ready for CES about 2:00am in the morning of the day we were to leave at 6:00am.”512K RAM Expansion from Berkely, makes of GEOS, for the Commodore 128

“Advertisements in the Las Vegas airport and again on a billboard enroute from the airport inform us that the C128 has craftily been designed to be expandable to 512K.  Now it had been designed to be expandable originally and  had been respecified by management so as to not be expandable in case next year’s computer needed the expendability as the “New” reason to buy a Commodore computer. That’s like not putting brakes on this years model of car so that next year you can tote the New model as reducing those annoying head-on crashes.”

Jack Tramiel - Left Commodore and Bought Atari in Spring of 1984“Upon arriving at the hotel we find that out hotel reservations have been canceled by someone who fits the description of an Atari employee. Three things occur in rapid succession.  First I find the nearest person owning a credit card and briskly escort her to the desk were I rented a room for all  available days, second, a phone call is placed to another nearby hotel canceling the room reservations for  Jack Tramiel and company, third, several of those C64’s with built in monitors (C64DX’s??? man it’s been too long) are brought out and left laying around the hotel shift supervisors path accompanied by statements such as “My my, who left this nifty computer laying here… I’d bet they wouldn’t miss it too much”.

 “The next day we meet up with the guy who developed CPM (Von) for the C128. As I mentioned earlier, someone forgot to tell him about the silly little ramifications of an 8563 bug.  His ‘puter didn’t do it as he had stopped upgrading 8563s on his development machine somewhere around Rev 4 and the problem appeared somewhere around Rev 6.  As Von didn’t carry all the machinery to do a CPM rebuild to fix the bug in software, it looked like CPM might not be showable.  One third of the booth’s design and  advertising was based on showing CPM.  In TRUE Animal fashion Von sat down with a disk editor and found every occurrence of bad writes to the 8563 and hand patched them.  Bear in mind that CPM is stored with the bytes backwards in sectors  that are  stored themselves in reverse order. Also bear in mind that he could  neither  increase or decrease the number of instructions, he could only  exchange them for different ones.  Did I mention hand calculating the new checksums for the sectors?  All this with a Disk Editor. I was impressed.”

“Everything else went pretty smooth, every (power) supply was adjusted at the last moment for best performance for that particular demo.  …On the average, 2 almost working 8563’s would appear each day, hand carried by people coming to Vegas. Another crisis, no problem, this was getting too easy.”

The Peripherals:

Commodore did not produce many peripherals designed exclusively for the 128 line.  Instead they relied primarily on C64 devices like the 1541 floppy drive.  An exception was the Commodore 1902 monitor for $400 ($100 more than the price of a new C128!) which was required to use the new 128’s advanced 80 column mode.  The C1750 massive 512K RAM Expander was another new product.  The most anticipated new peripheral was the 1571 double sided floppy drive which, at 360K, provided more than double the capacity of the 1541.  Much more importantly it was a whopping 7 to 10 times faster!

Many Bulletin Board Systems (BBS’s – pre-internet for those of you who were born after 1980) also jumped on the C128 Mode bandwagon. There are a number of historians who site Commodore as the unsung development partner of the Internet.  While it is certainly true that the US military and several universities developed ARPANET, its transition into the internet would not have been so rapid had online communities not been created with extensive use of Commodore hardware: the amazingly inexpensive VIC Modem (and its decedents the 1600, 1650, 1670 and 1680) combined with powerful C128 Mode functionality allowed thousands of BBS’ to spring up from nothing.  The 128 produced:

  • a large supply of online information;
  • consumer awareness, which created demand, and;
  • telecommunication capacity and skills

all of which are were required to develop and commercialization the Internet

The Commodore 128D:

Commodore 128D in an OfficeIn an effort to extend the life of this powerful multitalented machine, Commodore introduced a slight derivative of the 128 called the Commodore 128D in 1987.  The idea was to make a cleaner, smaller foot print foCommodore 128D Backr the 128 so that it might appeal to the small business segment dominated by IBM at the time.  Commodore 128D models looked allot like Apple Mac computers of the late 1990’s.  They came in a square desktop box,  featuring an integrated a front loading Commodore 1571 5.14″ high capacity floppy disk drive, and a separate keyboard. A monitor could sit nicely on top of this chassis, again reducing desk space requirements and clutter.  The price of this system, just $500, a third the price of an IBM PC.

In a cost saving effort, D’s were manufactured with less expensive “upgrade” versions of the SID (sound) chip,Plastic Commodore 128D For Europe with Carry Handle  called the 8580 SID and were sometimes referred to a 128DCR’s (Cost Reduced).

The first European 128D’s chassis were made of plastic.  They  came with a keyboard dock and carry handle!  The North American model came in standard beige steel chassis’ without the carry handle or keyboard dock.           

On an amusing note, I have often been asked questions from non-Commodore collectors about a super-rare prototype called a Commodore 1280.  Of course this is simply a misreading of the Commodore 128D name.           

Today (in 2003), 128D models are highly sought after by collectors and  enthusiasts, usually garnering more than triple what a standard 128 sells for.

The People of the Commodore 128:

Commodore 128 CreditsEarly in the process, a team of experienced hardware and software engineers were assembled and they left their personal mark on the their machine with an “easter egg”.  Type SYS 32800,123,45,6 on your 128 and you will see a small list of development credits.  Note the spelling of the word Hardware; presumably a tribute to Bil Herd.  The image on the left was created with the amazing WinVice Commodore emulator available for download from .

Bil Herd explained his team as follows:  

Bil Herd Original design and hardware team leader.
Dave Haynie Integration, timing analysis, and all those dirty jobs involving computer analysis which was something  totally new for CBM.
Frank Palaia One of three people in the world who honestly knows how to make a Z80 and a 6502 live             peacefully with each other in a synchronous, dual video controlled, time sliced, DRAM based system.
Fred Bowen Kernal and all system like things.  Dangerous when cornered.  Has been known to brandish common sense when trapped.
Terry Ryan Brought structure to Basic and got in trouble for  it. Threatened with the loss of his job if he ever did anything that made as much sense again. Has been know to use cynicism in ways that violate most Nuclear Ban Treaties.
Von Ertwine CPM.  Sacrificed his family’s popcorn maker in the search of a better machine.
Dave DiOrio VIC chip mods and IC team leader.  Ruined the theory that most chip designers were from Pluto.
Victor             MMU integration. Caused much dissention by being one of the nicest guys you’d ever meet.
Greg Berlin 1571 Disk Drive design.  Originator of Berlin-Speak. I think of Greg every night.  He separated my  shoulder in a friendly brawl in a bar parking lot  and I still cant sleep on that side.
Dave             Siracusa 1571 Software.  Aka “The Butcher”

“The names of the people who worked on the PCB layout can be found on the bottom of the PCB.”



“The syntax refers to an inside joke where we supposedly gave our lives in an effort to get the FCC production board done in time, after being informed just the week before by a middle manager that all the work on the C128 must stop as this project has gone on far too long.  After the head of Engineering got  back from his business trip and inquired as to why the C128 had been put on hold, the middle manger nimbly spoke expounding the virtues of getting right on the job immediately and someone else, _his_ boss perhaps, had made such an ill suited decision.  The bottom line was we lived in the PCB layout area for the next several days.  I slept there on an airmatress or was otherwise available 24 hours a day to answer any layout questions.  The computer room was so cold that the Egg Mcmuffins we bought the first day were still good 3 days later.”

The End of the Commodore 128

Commodore 128 Retail PackagingThe 128 went on to be a notable success for Commodore but not because of its new power.  Unfortunately most software developers ignored the new and advanced C128 Mode functionality.  Why develop software for a new, relatively small product like 128’s native mode when you can write software for the wildly successful C64 and know that your code will function on a 128 operating in 64 mode.  There were some notable exceptions, such as the Graphical User Environment called GEOS which created a powerful 128 Mode version.
       Commodore 128 vs Apple II Advertisement

Before its demise in 1989, the Commodore 128 sold a respectable four million units but this number could have been dramatically larger. Much like the Amiga to come, Commodore was incapable of promoting the C128 to the appropriate target markets.  128’s were insanely inexpensive when compared feature for feature with its the  competition of the day.  If Commodore had developed and pushed the D models to the small business market in 1986, the 128 could have been a serious contender in that space.

The last gasp was a very small production run Commodore 128CR’s (Cost Reduced) released in North America in 1988 or 1989.  They were identical to the 128DCR except they did not have an integrated floppy drive.  I have never seen one of these units… not even a picture!  If you have one, please email a picture to us and we will add it to this site with credit to you.

On a sad note, the 128’s CP/M Mode was almost never used because CP/M was quickly losing ground to Microsoft Disk Operating System (MS DOS) by then running at version 2.  MS-DOS was of course popularized by the IBM PC and seemingly endless line of IBM clone machines.  Business developers had all but abandoned the old standby CP/M in favour of the new and  rapidly expanding DOS market.  The Commodore 128 was CP/M’s last big play, but the 128 just did not have the market penetration to keep CP/M alive.

Commodore 128 Magazine Articles:

Commodore 128 Manuals:

Commodore 128 Videos: 

Commodore 128 Announcement TV 1985 1:38      1.7MB      .5MB      1.4MB
Commodore 128 Special Bundle Promo 1986 6:38      6.4MB 1.7MB 5MB

Commodore 128 Chronology:

Italicized lines refer to key moments in history that are not Commodore related


  • January 13th – Commodore shows off prototype 264 and 364 at CES and indicates they should be in production by June
  • January 15th – Commodores founder, visionary and CEO, Jack Tramiel quits Commodore with secret plans to buy the near bankrupt Atari
  • April – Commodore launches its first IBM clone, the Commodore PC, at the Hanover Fair in Germany
  • April – Commodore shows the Commodore Z8000 at the Hanover Fair in Germany
  • Mid-Summer – Commodore decides the Ted / 264 / 116 / Plus/4 Series will not sell as a replacement to the C64
  • September – Bil Herd appointed lead designer on C128 project in an effort to get a new machine ready for show at CES in Las Vegas, the 2nd week of January 1985
  • November – New chips are still not close to stable
  • December – Z-80 CPU incorporated into motherboard design – chip problems start getting resolved quickly
  • December – A 16K version of the 264 called the Commodore 116 is for sale (at least in Germany)
  • Intel introduces the 80186, 80188, and 80286 processors
  • Motorola unveils its 68010 CPU chip


  • January – The last VIC-20 rolls off the line and into the history books
  • January – Serious design problems still exist but are being resolve daily
  • January – C128 prototypes completed at 2am just 4 hours before the trip to CES
  • January – Commodore’s hotel rooms have been cancelled, possibly by their former boss turned competitor, Jack Tramiel
  • January – Prototypes shown at CES are unstable, going through two 8563 video chips per day, but the audience is unaware of this
  • Januray – Atari introduces the 130ST: 128KB RAM, 192KB ROM, 512 color graphics, MIDI interface, and mouse for $400.
  • January – Atari introduces the 520ST: 512KB RAM, 192KB ROM, 512 color graphics, MIDI interface, and mouse for $600.
  • June / July – C128 production begins and units are to sell for just $300
  • April –  IBM stops production of the IBM PCjr
  • May – Microsoft demonstrates Microsoft Windows 1.0 at Spring Comdex. Release date is set for June, at a price of US$95
  • September – Apple Computer co-founder Steve Jobs resigns from Apple Computer and founds NeXT Incorporated
  • Commodore stops production of the 64 several times (presumably in favor of the much more powerful 128) but restarts it because of demand


  • January –  Apple Computer starts producing the Macintosh Plus, with 1 MB RAM, support for hard drives, a new keyboard with cursor keys and numeric keypad, for $2600
  • Design of the 128D, business style case with neatly integrated 1571 floppy disk drive begins
  • Germany celebrates its 1,000,000 C64 with a Golden Jubilee version
  • March – Microsoft goes on the stock market at $21 per share. This raises $61 million.            
  • June – In an effort to revitalize sales, Commodore releases a sleek new 128 like case, changes the name to 64C, and bundles it with GEOS
  • August –  Intel ships the 80386
  • September – Plus/4 was in full liquidation were selling for a mere $79
  • September – IBM announces the IBM PC-XT Model 286, 640KB, 20MB hard drive, 1.2MB floppy, serial/parallel ports, and keyboard for the low low price of $4000


  • 128D’s hit retail stores in Europe and North America  for about $500
  • February – Commodore announces the Amiga 500 and 2000
  • April – IBM and Microsoft  announce Operating System/2 – OS/2.
  • June – Atari releases the Atari XE Game System, with 64KB RAM, supporting 256KB game cartridges
  • October – Microsoft ships Windows 2.0


  • Production of all 128 models stops
  • Total Commodore 128 sales are in the four million unit range
  • Intel introduces the 80486  microprocessor at Spring Comdex in Chicago. It integrates the  80386, 80387 math coprocessor, and adds a primary cache. It uses 1.2 million transistors. Initial price is US$900

Commodore 128 Picture Gallery:

Prototype Commodore 128D Plastic Cases  

Top Center  Drive

Side Drive           
Inspiration for the Amiga chassis?

Top Right Side Drive

Commodore 128 Prototype Case - Style #3

Commodore 128 Prototype Case - Style #1

Commodore 128 Prototype Case - Style #2

Images courtesy of Bo Zimmerman and his amazing  Commodore site THANX BO!.    Original source for these graphics was Maurice  Randall.  



Commodore 128 Retail Package
Hand Painted Commodore 128
Commodore 128D In an Office
Back of a 128D
128D Retail Box
Commodore 1571 Drive
Commodore 128 CreditsSYS 32800,123,45,6
Commodore 128 CP/M v3Screen shot from a 1985 CP/M ROM.  This ROM and the amazing WinVice emulator are available now on our Downloads page.  Note that unless you use WinVice’s WARP mode, CP/M may take about 2 minutes to load.
Commodore 128 80 Column ModeShows Basic 7
Commodore 128 40 Column ModeShows Basic 7
Commodore 128D Board Layout Explained
European 128D Plastic CaseWith Carry Handle
Zilog Z-80 CPU DIPP Pinouts
Prices For Commodore 128DCompute! November 1988
X10 Home Automation on a C128January 1986
CMD Hard Disk Advertisment
512K Expansion Cartridge Advertisementfrom Berkely Software, makers of GEOS
Compute April 1991
512K Expansion Cartridge
Dow Jones News ServiceCompute! March 1985
Commodore 128 vs Apple IIc Advertisement
Commodore 128 AdvertisementThanks for the Memory
Commodore 128 AdvertisementHow to evolve a higher inteligence.Compute! February 1986
Commodore vs Apple 1Targeted at education and home markets
Commodore vs Apple 2

NOTE: would like to thank Bil Herd and C= Hacking, [email protected],   [email protected],  [email protected][email protected],   [email protected] and others, which were very helpful in providing information and / or graphics for this page 🙂      

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