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Hello all

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:15 pm
by midnightoil
Back in the very early 1980s, as a late 30s-something newspaper reporter, I did a story on three high school students who were dabbling in the early stages of the home computer revolution. One theme in the story was that the kids felt you had to be young to do what they were doing -- that "old people" (late 30-something reporters), couldn't handle the concept.

That was something of a challenge to me so I started studying the home computing field. Most of the machines available in thise days cost well over $1000. And if you went to a bank to try to get a loan to purchase one they would just laugh at you. But I did manage to get some computer access. A local attorney had an HP85 that he loaned me for several days at a time. But the best source was the local high school. My wife was the business teacher and for some reason the school invested in a half dozen Commodore PETs -- one of the first schools in the state to have computers available for student use. I would go down to the school in the evening with my mate and play with the PETS while she graded papers. I learned a little about BASIC programming and wanted to learn more.

Didn't have a lot of money but finally managed to order a Timex-Sinclair computer. When it arrived it didn't work which turned out to be great because at about the same time the VIC-20 was released. I sent back the Timex, bought a VIC-20 and was on my way. Armed with a copy of BASIC Computer Games by David Ahl I started typing them into the VIC-20. But I soon learned that no program with more than 100 lines of text would fit. It was expensive in those days but I managed to finance a memory expansion cartridge with enough memory to hold Super Star Trek. I spent many nights getting too little sleep trying to debug programs. And when I went to bed they would keep running through my head in an endless GOTO loop.

After a year or so the small screen on the VIC-20 didn't cut it and I acquired a used Commodore CBM 80. Eventually I got a disk drive a modem and a dot matrix printer for it. And I was finally able to do something really productive when I found a copy of Electric Pencil on a local database.

Every month I would await the latest COMPUTE! magazine so I could soak up some more information from Commodore Guru Jim Butterfield. I would enter every BASIC program listing compatible with my CBM. I seldom played any of the games. The challenge was getting them to run.

I never worked with the Commadore 64. As a teacher my wife got a special deal on the IBM PCjr and I moved to DOS and later Windows machines. But I always had find memories of my Commodore days.

The other day on Craig's List I ran across a Commodore 64, disk drive, monitor and printer. My mate is getting it for me for Christmas (although she is grumbling about the space it will require. I'm retired now so I'll have lots of time to learn all about the 64. I think it's gonna be fun!

Re: Hello all

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 6:17 am
by frankmcc
Thanks for sharing that story! It is really fun to see how people got involved using Commodores as their foundation!

I too started on a Commodore Vic20, graduated to the 64 then the 64C and eventually the 128D. Spent so many nights with my wife reading machine code to me as I typed in programs from Compute, Run, Ahoy! and other magazines of the day. I could not get enough. And she was so supportive!

I am now the VP of a computer company that has grown to provide networking, telephone and data services to small and medium businesses! This is what a truck driver/mechanic can do with the help of a Commodore! Thank you Jack Trammel for making an affordable computer that launched many careers!

Over the past few years I have begun collecting those old computers, trying to replace all that I used to have. I have my Vic20, 64 and 128D, plus the accessories. I have my eye on a 64C and should acquire that soon. The holy grail for me is a Commodore Colt with a 10mb hard drive. My father gave me that machine when he shutdown his trucking business and it was my introduction to the world of DOS. I used it to launch my fist BBS, The Trading Post, serving up shareware to anyone willing to pay the phone bill. I still have the software, just need the machine.

Re: Hello all

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:52 pm
by midnightoil
A lot of us have simillar stories. Small correction: I had the CBM 8032. The machine I really regret letting go was a B128 which I traded off on a DOS machine. There wasn't much software for it but it would be a nice collectible.

Like you my Commodore experience helped me job-wise. Wherever I worked I had more computer knowledge than most folks my age and I usually wound up as sort of the unofficial on-site IT no matter what my real job was. A little bit of extra job security.

Accessing those early BBS's was tricky for me because even the nearest one was a long distance call. That could get expensive at 300 baud. Luckily most of the programs in those days were pretty short.

Re: Hello all

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:02 pm
by midnightoil
The story continues:
Got the Commodore 64 gear for Christmas. Computer booted but only showed 446 bytes of memory for Basic -- bad chips. Went on the auction and found a Plus/4. Yeah, I know it was supposed to be a dud but I like the upgraded disk commands, It arrived and runs great. Then one day I dropped by a local computer store that has been around since the beginning. Mark, the owner, sold me my CBM 8032 back in the day. I mentioned to him the 64 has issues. He pull an old 64 out of a box in the back that had some keys missing. I said I might be able to take the top (keyboard) off my 64 and mate it with the bottom (board) of Mark's. He said if it would work he would take 10 bucks for the computer. Took it home and it worked like a charm! now I have 64 and a Plus/4. Now if the color would just quit cutting out on the 1702 monitor after it warms up, Already got "Hangman" and "Lem" running from David Ahl's Basic Computer Games book and am working on "Super Star Trek" (which has to be converted to 40 columns wide). I'm 68 and I figure this has to be a good exercise to keep the mind sharp. I had forgotten, however, that when you make an error in a Basic program line you have to retype the whole thing--you can't just edit it.

Re: Hello all

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:26 pm
by rbernardo
midnightoil wrote:...am working on "Super Star Trek" (which has to be converted to 40 columns wide).
A few months ago I picked up a C64 public domain disk with Super Star Trek. The game was already in 40 columns. :)

Truly,