WE'VE MOVED !!
In the summer of 1984 Commodore decided that they needed a replacement for the amazingly successful C64. More accurately they decided that the TED / 116 / Plus/4 / 264 Series was a failure as a replacement for the C64.
This machine would be Commodores last 8-Bit computer; after this they would produce only 16/32 Bit Amiga's and IBM PC clones.
Customer reaction to Commodores failure to provide native CP/M support in the C64 and (much worse) their failure to provide C64 compatibility in the Plus/4 / 264 Series taught Commodore engineers some hard lessons. Commodore's founder and visionary, Jack Tramiel, had quit months earlier and the new management team wanted to just forget the Plus/4 / 264 Series fiasco. Fortunately, the engineers knew they needed to fulfill promises of compatibility.
Bil Herd got the top job as 128 lead Engineer because of his vocal criticism of the new management teams lack of vision. "No one dreamed that C64 compatibility was possible so, no one thought along those lines. I had decided to make the next machine compatible with _something_ instead of yet another incompatible CBM machine. (I won't go into the "yes Virginia there is Compatibility" memo that I wrote that had the lawyers many years later still chuckling, suffice it to say I made some fairly brash statements regarding my opinion of product strategy) Consequently, I was allowed/forced to put my money where my mouth was and I took over the C128 project."
Under managements guidance, the first C128 concept machines (pre-prototype) made no attempt at C64 compatibility. Bil recalls, "I looked at the existing schematics once and then started with a new design based on C64ness. The manager of the chip group approached me and said they had a color version of the 6845 if I was interested in using it would definitely be done in time having been worked on already for a year and a half...... And so the story begins."
Commodore needed its next computer to be a serious upgrade from the C64 if it was to successfully battle its arch nemesis; It needed to keep Jack Tramiel's, Atari, from being successful with their rumored new "ST" line.
In 1982, Commodore released the worlds first multi-processor personal computer, called SuperPET, but it was targeted only at the education and scientific markets. The Commodore 128 was to be the worlds first mass market multi-processor computer. It would also have two video subsystems, one of which would allow it to connect to a TV.
A reviewer from Your Computer magazine wrote "The dowdy shoebox image of the Commodore 64 has been replaced by a slim line beige console that any style-conscious businessman should be pleased to have on his desk. A full size typewriter style keyboard has 92 keys, that travel and locate well." The 128's 80 column display mode would produce 640x200 which was better than the CGA mode that IBM PC's could produce even in the early 1990's! This new an powerful machine would act as three completely separate computers in one:
All this would sell for an
initial price of just $300; half of the Commodore 64 price when it was introduced
two years earlier.
technically complex machine would present serious engineering and
marketing challenges to any company. Bil Herd recalls "It was
sometime in September (1984) when we got 8563 (new 40/80 column colour
video chip) Silicon, good enough to stick in a system. ...One concern we
had was it occasionally blew up.... big time.... turn over die and then
smell bad..... But then all of the C128 prototypes did that on a semi
regular basis as there wasn't really any custom silicon yet, just big
circuit boards plugged in where custom chips would later go... but you
can't wait for a system to be completed before starting software
development. When this problem still existed on Rev 4 we got
concerned. It was at this time that the single most scariest
statement came out of the IC Design section in charge of the '63.
This statement amounted to 'you'll always have some chance statistically
that any read or write cycle will fail due to (synchronicity)' ".
In addition the yield on these video chips was about .001%. Commodores chip division MOS Technologies could only get three or four working chips the per run. "A run is a half-Lot at MOS and costs between $40,000 and $120,000 to run. Pretty expensive couple of chips."
As if these problems were not enough, the power supply needed to be adjusted for each chip or they would literally burn up. "No single custom chip was working completely as we went into December (1984) with the possible exception of the 8510 CPU... At this point all I did have to lose was a HUGE jar of bad 8563's. (One night a sign in my handwriting "appeared" on this jar asking "Guess how many working 8563's there are in the jar and win a prize." Of course if the number you guessed was a positive real number you were wrong.)"
With only five or six weeks to go until the January Consumer Electronics Show in Vegas "...finger pointing was in High swing, (the systems guys should have said they wanted WORKING silicon) with one department pitted against the other, which was sad because the other hardworking chip designers had preformed small miracles in getting their stuff done on time... ...Managers started getting that look rabbits get in the headlights of onrushing Mack trucks, some started drinking, some reading poetry aloud and the worst were commonly seen doing both. Our favorite behavior was where they hid in their offices. It was rumored that the potted plant in the lobby was in line for one of the key middle management positions."
Unbelievably, in this time of crisis, both MOS chip designers went on Christmas vacation and "...a sprinkler head busted and rained all over computer equipment stored in the hallway. Engineering gathered as a whole and watched on as a $100,000 worth of equipment became waterlogged.... I can honestly say that it didn't seriously occur to me that we wouldn't be ready for CES... There were just too many problems to stop and think what if."
"Von Ertwine was developing CP/M at home (consultant). Von had wisely chosen not to try to follow all of the current Revs of the 8563, instead he latched onto a somewhat working Rev4 and kept if for software development. Later we would find out that Von, to make the 8563 work properly, was taking the little metal cup that came with his hot air popcorn popper (it was a buttercup to be exact) and would put an Ice cube in it and set it on the 8563. He got about 1/2 hour of operation per cube. On our side there was talk of rigging cans of cold spray with foot switches for the CES show."
Bil Herd stated that a number of "odd engineering fixes", often conceived after consuming a few beer at the bar beside the MOS factory, resulted in seemingly insurmountable problems being quickly resolved. The most important of these 'fixes' was the integration of a Z-80 CPU into the main board. In addition to resolving several taxing electronic problems, it elevated the C128 into the realm of the business computer. "A True Miracle and was accompanied by the sound of Hell Freezing over, the Rabbit getting the Trix, and several instances of Cats and Dogs sleeping together. This was the first time that making CES became a near possibility. We laughed, we cried, we got drunk."
"We averaged 1-3 of these crises a day the last two weeks before CES. Several of us suffered withdrawal symptoms if the pressure laxed for even a few minutes. The contracted security guards accidentally started locking the door to one of the development labs during this time. A hole accidentally appeared in the wall allowing you to reach through and unlock it. They continued to lock it anyways even though the gaping hole stood silent witness to the ineffectiveness of trying to lock us out of our own lab during a critical design phase. We admired this singleness of purpose and considered changing professions."
"Advertisements in the Las Vegas airport and again on a
billboard enroute from
the airport inform us that the C128 has craftily been designed to be
expandable to 512K. Now it had been designed to be expandable
had been respecified by management so as to not be expandable in case
year's computer needed the expendability as the "New" reason to buy a
Commodore computer. That's like not putting brakes on this years model
so that next year you can tote the New model as reducing those
The Peripherals: Commodore did not produce many peripherals designed exclusively for the 128 line. Instead they relied primarily on C64 devices like the 1541 floppy drive. An exception was the Commodore 1902 monitor for $400 ($100 more than the price of a new C128!) which was required to use the new 128's advanced 80 column mode. The C1750 massive 512K RAM Expander was another new product. The most anticipated new peripheral was the 1571 double sided floppy drive which, at 360K, provided more than double the capacity of the 1541. Much more importantly it was a whopping 7 to 10 times faster!
Many Bulletin Board Systems (BBS's - pre-internet for those of you who were born after 1980) also jumped on the C128 Mode bandwagon. There are a number of historians who site Commodore as the unsung development partner of the Internet. While it is certainly true that the US military and several universities developed ARPANET, its transition into the internet would not have been so rapid had online communities not been created with extensive use of Commodore hardware: the amazingly inexpensive VIC Modem (and its decedents the 1600, 1650, 1670 and 1680) combined with powerful C128 Mode functionality allowed thousands of BBS' to spring up from nothing. The 128 produced:
all of which are were required to develop and commercialization the Internet.
The Commodore 128D: In an effort to extend the life of this powerful multitalented machine, Commodore introduced a slight derivative of the 128 called the Commodore 128D in 1987. The idea was to make a cleaner, smaller foot print for the 128 so that it might appeal to the small business segment dominated by IBM at the time. Commodore 128D models looked allot like Apple Mac computers of the late 1990's. They came in a square desktop box, featuring an integrated a front loading Commodore 1571 5.14" high capacity floppy disk drive, and a separate keyboard. A monitor could sit nicely on top of this chassis, again reducing desk space requirements and clutter. The price of this system, just $500, a third the price of an IBM PC.
In a cost saving effort, D's were
manufactured with less expensive "upgrade" versions of the SID (sound)
called the 8580 SID and were sometimes referred to a 128DCR's (Cost
On an amusing note, I have often been asked questions from non-Commodore collectors about a super-rare prototype called a Commodore 1280. Of course this is simply a misreading of the Commodore 128D name.
Today (in 2003), 128D models are highly sought after by collectors and enthusiasts, usually garnering more than triple what a standard 128 sells for.
The People: Early in the process, a team of experienced hardware and software engineers were assembled and they left their personal mark on the their machine with an "easter egg". Type SYS 32800,123,45,6 on your 128 and you will see a small list of development credits. Note the spelling of the word Hardware; presumably a tribute to Bil Herd. The image on the left was created with the amazing WinVice Commodore emulator available for download from www.commodore.ca .
Bil Herd explained his team as
"The names of the people who worked on the PCB layout can be found on the bottom of the PCB."
"RIP: HERD, FISH, RUBINO"
"The syntax refers to an inside joke where we supposedly gave our lives in an effort to get the FCC production board done in time, after being informed just the week before by a middle manager that all the work on the C128 must stop as this project has gone on far too long. After the head of Engineering got back from his business trip and inquired as to why the C128 had been put on hold, the middle manger nimbly spoke expounding the virtues of getting right on the job immediately and someone else, _his_ boss perhaps, had made such an ill suited decision. The bottom line was we lived in the PCB layout area for the next several days. I slept there on an airmatress or was otherwise available 24 hours a day to answer any layout questions. The computer room was so cold that the Egg Mcmuffins we bought the first day were still good 3 days later."
Before its demise in 1989, the Commodore 128 sold a respectable four million units but this number could have been dramatically larger. Much like the Amiga to come, Commodore was incapable of promoting the C128 to the appropriate target markets. 128's were insanely inexpensive when compared feature for feature with its the competition of the day. If Commodore had developed and pushed the D models to the small business market in 1986, the 128 could have been a serious contender in that space.
The last gasp was a very small production run Commodore 128CR's (Cost Reduced) released in North America in 1988 or 1989. They were identical to the 128DCR except they did not have an integrated floppy drive. I have never seen one of these units... not even a picture! If you have one, please email a picture to us and we will add it to this site with credit to you.
On a sad note, the 128's CP/M
Mode was almost never used because CP/M was quickly losing ground to
Microsoft Disk Operating System (MS DOS) by then running at version 2.
MS-DOS was of course popularized by the
IBM PC and seemingly endless
line of IBM clone machines. Business developers had all but
abandoned the old standby CP/M in favour of the new and rapidly
expanding DOS market. The Commodore 128 was CP/M's last big
play, but the 128 just did not have the market penetration to keep
Commodore 128 Reference Materials:
C128 Magazine Articles Commodore 128 Announcement TPUG February 1985
Commodore 128: What is the "Stack" Transactor September 1985 Commodore 128 Initial Review COMPUTE! June 1985 Cross a Commodore 64 with a CP/M Business Machine & A New 128K Micro Your Computer June 1985 CP/M: What is it? Compute March 1985
Commodore 128 System Guide - Complete with Graphics and Basic 7, CP/M - 1985
Commodore 64 & 128 Tips Sheet - Hardware Failures - 1989
C128 / C64 Tips From June 1987 Calgary Commodore Users Group - Calgary Commodore Users Group 1987 Centipede BBS Software - (Not on this site)
Italicized lines refer to key moments in history that are not Commodore related
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